Politics Suck Core Balls

Instead of voting for someone that has no chance, I'm voting for the least evil candidate (Barack Obama). Keep in mind that I am a white male. I don't think Obama is a racist, I don't think Paul is a racist, but I do think Hillary is a dirty bitch who gets off on lies. McCain is an old man who is controlled by the powers that be in the Republican party. Paul is a good candidate, as is Mike Gravel on the Democratic side, but the chance of them winning is zero. Therefore, Obama is the answer.

That mentality, Anonymous, is the reason we're going to be trapped in this spiral forever. People that think "my one vote doesn't count" so they don't vote or just vote for the name they've heard the most. That's why the media wins every damn time. You know what? Maybe you're right. Maybe just because I decide to vote for Ron Paul (which I will be so fuck off) doesn't necessarily increase his chances of winning. But I'll feel better about it than you will. I'll have stuck to my guns and not given in to this Fox news bullshit that is our current election system. I hope more people like you move to Mexico or something.

I love how you're going to go along talking down to your non-voting friends. "Well at least I voted." Bullshit you did. You threw your vote away more than I did. I can stand behind mine and defend it with actual reason, while you can try to hide behind "at least mine mattered."

Fucking coward.

You're an idiot. We're going to be stuck in this spiral forever because we are all stupid. You're no better so get over it and shut the fuck up. This is the best we got.

see, the funny thing about voting is that one vote DOESNT count. first off, we use the electoral system, which means that if one candidate wins a state, no matter how close the vote, he gets all the points that state has to offer. this automatically assumes that the entire population of the state voted for a candidate, which is ridiculous. secondly, voting really doesnt matter. no matter who is elected, the corporations will continue to be in charge of what goes on. they pay for the candidates' campaigns, and the candidates kiss ass to the corporations once they are elected. the only thing voting changes is the person screwing us.

Oh this is just getting too easy.

First of all, I'd rather be an idiot than part of the problem (and by the way, by the end of this post I'll prove how I'm much less of both than you are). You do realize that your very argument there is exactly why the media is able to bone us? Its the fact that you (and most Americans) are OK with it. You know what's going on and you're not doing a fucking thing about it. Its that complacency that allows them to do that. "This is the best we got." Fuck that. This may be what we have, but we could have so much more. Don't go calling me an idiot just because I'm doing what little that I can do to help fix it, even if it is in vain.

And for the record, "no matter how close the race gets" is EXACTLY why every vote counts. On a national tally scale, you're very right, it doesn't. But in each individual state race especially in the closest states, every vote matters very, very much. Think about Florida in 2000. It came down to just a few hundred votes, to the point where every ballot had to be recorded by hand. And since apparently you didn't notice, those few hundred votes determined who got the electoral votes from that state, which decided who the fucking president was.

I am the first Anonymous and the first response is my only one so far. Vote for Ron Paul. I personally don't give a shit. And I don't fucking watch Fox News.....that shit isn't even news, it's representative of the conservative view. My point was that in order to do as you say and actually change the system, we need to change the mind of the American public, which isn't easy to do.


Say I did vote for Ron Paul. If that were the case, since I live in Illinois, I would be forced to vote Republican in the general election and it would either be McCain or no voting. It's good that I actually voted for someone that could go against the Iraq War and nearly everything the Bush Administration stands for.

Anonymous the first = right.

By going for the more liberal of the frontrunners, you have a much better chance of changing the country than going for the fringe candidate. Everyone knows Ron Paul is the man, but change is gradual. You can't go from a police state to the completely opposite end of the spectrum overnight. It's idealistic and stupid to think you can. If a few hundred votes is going to decide who's president, isn't it a better idea to place them on someone that has a chance in the first place? That is the EXACT reason Gore lost in 2000 (that, and the dubious "recount")- as cool as Nader is, when people vote for him, everyone gets fucked. Obama's no prize, but like the man said - politics suck core balls.

If you're voting for someone who isn't going to win, the media still screws you, and you HAVE thrown your vote away. People are too stupid to make good decisions in unison. You need to make the media work for you; vote for the popular democrat, make everything a little better, and push it a little next time. In 4 years, the next popular democrat makes more positive changes, and maybe the people WILL be ready for Paul. I sure hope so, because we in Canada are getting awfully fucking nervous up here. We're not exactly interested in becoming the new Poland, if y'know what I mean.

By the way, Joel, your manner of writing is excessively confrontational, and makes you look like an asshole. Also, you aren't helping anyone fix anything, because that's what "in vain" means. Just sayin'.

If Hillary Clinton was my grandma, I would have the worst nightmares.

Can someone please explain to me why Ron Paul is so much better than any other candidate? The fact that he raised his campaign funding without corporate contributions is dang awesome. His stances on the economy, taxes, and finances are all great, and I'm definitely no fan of the Patriot Act or the war on drugs. However, he has his share of craziness too. He wants to overturn Row v. Wade (aren't people ever going to give this up?), he's against birthright citizenship, for free-market environmentalism and withdrawal from the UN.

If people are as stupid and lazy as we all know they are then free-market environmentalism would never work. People wouldn't care enough to put pressure on companies that pollute (just like now) and without legislation, industries would be free to emit as much carbon as they felt like so they could avoid costly upgrades and redesigns.

Though the UN isn't as great as Woodrow Wilson, and indeed all of us, had hoped, it still serves as a platform for global dialog. If the US were to withdraw it would be like us turning our back on the global community. "Sorry guys, we have some shit to deal with, we'll get back to you in a couple decades. Hope you haven't destroyed each other in a blaze of nuclear aggression." What happened last time we had a staunch policy of isolationism? Oh right, two world wars.

I'm not a fan of the sprawling bureaucracy that is our government, but if the majority of it were dissolved in a matter of four years, like Ron Paul proposes, hundreds of thousands of jobs would be eliminated and unemployment would rise to the worst level since the great depression. Sounds fun, right?

I guess when it all comes down to it, every candidate has points that you agree and disagree with, but it's up to each person to make their informed decision. It's not your right to belittle someone for choosing a candidate other than yours, as much as you might think it's a dumb move.

The first time I heard about Ron Paul, it was about 5 months ago and I was walking from my car to my dorm and some kids on rollerblades yelled at me "Ron Paul Revolution - tell your friends, tell your girlfriend...youv probably don't have a girlfriend."

I haven't been outside since.

I'd like to make some points:

- I appreciate some of Ron Paul's views, but I disagree with a lot of what he has to say, particularly in regards to social welfare programs, which I see as helping stabilize our society, and generally raising the standard of living in this country. Sure, they are abused by some people, but that doesn't mean those programs don't do a hell of a lot of good, on the whole.

- Obama's money has been raised from over 1.3 million donors giving an average of $96 (http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/04/13-million-donors-campaign-fin.php), so he's following in much the same fundraising pattern as Paul, only on a much, much bigger scale.

- Bush was NOT elected in Florida. This point should have been first, but I forgot it until now... Rather than being a reason why everyone's vote is so important, Florida 2000 should serve as an object lesson: your vote doesn't count for shit. Bush was APPOINTED to the presidency in a 5-4 party-line vote of the Supreme Court, despite the fact that he lost the popular vote, his brother was the governor of Florida, and his campaign chair was the Florida Secretary of State (and thus in charge of running the election).

- I'm voting for Obama not because I think he's the candidate most likely to win, but because he's my favorite out of the ones still running (I was originally supporting Kucinich, then Edwards). So if you think I'm just chasing a winner, you can fuck off.

- Wright isn't a racist, or at least, he isn't JUST a racist. I'm sick of saying this, but I guess I'll do it yet again: Jeremiah Wright is a great man, a man who has done a great deal to improve the lot of colored people throughout the U.S., and especially in his area, Chicago's South Side. He is a highly intelligent, very passionate individual who has worked tirelessly to improve unity within black families and raise the level of education in the black community. His legacy has been praised by many pastors within the United Church of Christ, a mostly-white denomination.

- Also, Ron Paul is not a racist - or at least, he isn't JUST a racist. The man has a lot of good ideas, but I disagree with a lot of them.

I appreciate your commentary - it's usually pretty funny, and it's good to see you changing things up. But it's very uninformed, so here's some knowledge.

Peace

Danm straight, I'm voting for Paul, too. I don't like wasting my vote on liars and thieves.

Oh, and also, Ron Paul is probably the only candidate running right now who might stand a chance of dismantling this disgusting communist state the democrats have constructed. Mr. Wright can piss and moan about how Jesus was a black man, but the fact is that nobody wants to hear him misconstrue what the Bible says in such a glaring example of eisogesis.

I don't like wasting my vote on idiots and morons who only want to raise taxes and restrict liberty and freedom. It's absurd.

Anyone who says that Wright is not a racist obviously has blinders on to the world. The man blames every problem facing Americans (In his eyes JUST African Americans, but many whites face these problems as well) on the "White Man."

(The following is paraphrased)
"Whites invented HIV to thin out the numbers of blacks" is the kind of conspiracy theory that only a sociopath would come up with.

Granted, Obama cannot be blamed for the things this psychopath is saying, but the fact that he was part of that man's congregation for years says something about his character.

That's true, but you meet crazy people everywhere and you still associate with them or at least let them keep giving you your Taco Bell food or whatever.

If I was going to a church and the pastor made some crazy statements but a lot of legitimate, meaningful things most of the time, I wouldn't just up and leave the church and disown the guy. And just because the guy might be a little crazy and Obama didn't disaccosiate himself with the guy, doesn't mean Obama's bad or that Obama's character represents anything like the Reverend's. Think of how many people go to that church, see that Reverend. Are they all racist, crazy, etc.? I don't think so.