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Fourth of July Advice Post

Posted July 3rd, 2007 by Nathan DeGraaf
Tomorrow is the Fourth of July, or Seven Four (as Michael Moore calls it). I'm a huge fan of the Fourth, not only because it's America's birthday, but because I have an unhealthy love of stuff that blows up, fireworks, barbecue, fire in general, beer and warm days. A few years ago, back when blogs first became available to the PIC writers, I busted out my list of favorite Fourth of July moments. You can go to it here, because, quite frankly, I haven't added much to in the last few years. As I age and mature, I've learned that getting wasted over the holidays is a bad idea. I usually lose friends, get fined and scar myself when I combine drinking holidays with drinking. And make no mistake, our country's birthday is a drinking holiday. You could ask our founding fathers if you don't believe me, but they all died because human lives have things called spans. What can you do?

So, because I've pretty much shot my wad describing my experiences on our country's birthday, I figured that I'd let a reader named Brian steal the show. He wrote in with the following.

Hey Nate, er Nathan. I guess it doesn't matter. I read your shit on PIC all the time and I think your writing is good. But I didn't just email you to kiss your ass. I have a problem that I think you could help me with.

I'm twenty-five years old and I am absolutely in love with a sixteen year old girl. She's more than just smoking hot. She's also really smart and funny. We've been having sex and I'm cool with her parents, who are aware of the nature of our relationship (i.e. that we are fucking), but my friends have some serious problem with me. Ever since I started dating this chick, my friends have been giving me the cold shoulder, treating me like I'm the scum of the Earth. They even staged some kind of pseudo intervention. Some of them, like my buddy Jim, are cool enough to say that even if they don't like my relationship, they still like me, whereas others, like my friend Rachel, say that they will have nothing to do with me until I drop the "high-schooler" (as they call her).

I'm writing this to you because you once wrote a column about how you wish the age of consent was sixteen (it was funny, but I could not tell if it was your real opinion or just written for comedy's sake).

Anyway, keep up the writing and let me know what you think.

?Brian.

Now, I wrote this dude back and told him that age was just a number and good luck with his friends, but I didn't have much more to say than that. I'm not an advice columnist and I don't think Brian was seeking my approval, but he said I could post this up (I told him that y'all are pretty smart). So if any of y'all feel like helping him, I'm sure he'd appreciate it.

And no matter what happens, I hope every one of you has an awesome Fourth of July.

Even if you live in Ireland and this is just like, another weekday for you.
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PFY's picture
PFY (not verified) on July 3rd, 2007:

If you leave her your friends will still look down on you for the decision and you will regret doing it. Wait till the relationship naturally fizzles out and tell your friends to act like friends.

On the other hand, remember what it was like growing up from 16 to 25? Yea, enjoy doing that again.

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The Dude (not verified) on July 3rd, 2007:

Brian,

Do what you want, do what's right, and never apologize.

Generically,

The Dude.

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Lisa (not verified) on July 4th, 2007:

ya my boyfriends friends have a problem with me too, he's 25 i'm 19. but lucky for me he told dem to go jump coz apparently he loves me.... ya but my point is why wreck a good thing just coz ur friends are being idiots about it.

you should never regret anything you do, because at that point in your life it was what u wanted to do and it made you happy

oh and happy 4th July American ppl! and yes nate ur rite it is just another weekday here in Ireland....

Liamo's picture
Liamo (not verified) on July 4th, 2007:

It maybe just another day in Ireland, but'll I'll be sure to have a few scoops for the USA anyway.

happy independance day!

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Joe S. (not verified) on July 4th, 2007:

well last week I met a very attractive girl and ended up fucking her that night. Turns out she was 16. I'm 22 and in my opinion I think that is too much of an age difference for her being that young. Yeah it was great sex but I'm not going to hit it again. Plus there's the whole statutory rape thing that you can go to jail for.
I have a friend who was 19 when he fucked a 15 year old and her parents found out and pressed charges, making him now a registered sex offender. So that kind of puts a damper on things for me anyways, even though you said hers were cool.
Now I am completely against doing something because you are pressured to by friends, parents etc. and my first instinct is tell them to go fuck themselves.
On the other hand, for the sake of your own conscience, there are millions of other girls out there who are over the age of consent, yeah yeah this girl is special, whatever, its just bringing unnecessary headache into your life.
It is argued by some that girls that young aren't emotionally and psychologically ready to make healthy decisions as far as sex and relationships go, so you risk the chance of changing her normal development as a teen (which may be a good thing, who knows).
Now if you think you are a positive influence in this girls life and you aren't going to hurt her, then yeah just tell your friends to fuck off. Life pretty much sucks anyways so I guess if you think you've found some happiness then go for it.

Just don't knock her up before she gets to college.

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Anonymous (not verified) on July 5th, 2007:

If that many people close to you are all saying the same thing, maybe you should listen.

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